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  Kingdom Hall Money Grab Was for Child Abuse – It’s Completely Clear

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  if youve followed the news lately there are more and more child abuse cases popping up.

  one lawyer said he has over 28 cases in the pipeline that are going to be coming out soon.

  on december 1 st a new one just popped up.

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  Driving Force

  

  Vidiot

  
  

  You seem to know how.
  Then please let me know how they can do it.

  I'll remind you if I do not get an answer.
  
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  many newly baptised getting reproved and df'd!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  parents are turning their children in for such offences as stealing from the cookie jar, not cleaning their room and worst of all, not eating their vegetables!

  many parents are writing the org.

  if they should shun their 8 year old.

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  Lemonparty.org

  
  

  In the last congregation I was in, there are idiots that would do that.
  
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  Young baptism a double standard with marriage?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i remember tons of young ones getting counseled for being too young to date and for marriage.

  the elders said, "marriage is the 2nd biggest dedication of your life (baptism being 1st), at 20 you still don't know who you are or what you want.

  you can't possibly make a decision like that, that young!

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  Morpheus

  Good link.

  Shit, can they not up it to 50s, this will give me the chance to develop my brain away from cult indoctrination.
  
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  Better Bible Translation?

  by Sofia Lose in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  which bible translation is the best, according to biblical scholars, anybody knows?

  please chime in.. i plan on getting it and doing comparison with the new world translation.

  sl.

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  Driving Force

  This is something I find very useful for study.
  

  Greek / Hebrew interlinear Bible software

  http://www.scripture4all.org/
  
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  Kingdom Hall Money Grab Was for Child Abuse – It’s Completely Clear

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  if youve followed the news lately there are more and more child abuse cases popping up.

  one lawyer said he has over 28 cases in the pipeline that are going to be coming out soon.

  on december 1 st a new one just popped up.

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  Driving Force

  Half banana
  

  bugger off with the remaining cash

  Not possible as long as they are a non-profit organization. Once they lose this non-profit status, then it will be possible for them to dish out the remaining cash. After all the changes made to to bOrg structure puts the seven of them at the top.

  This dishing out the cash will have its legal problems, but I suspect it can be done.
  
  
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  Crap Shoot

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what would have happen if i was not home when jehovahs witnesses knocked on my door?.

  there was a group of us living in a small trailer in the mid 60s when and old pioneer brother knocked on our door and placed all kinds of books and magazines with us.

  all of us took it seriously and studied and started attending the kingdom hall.

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  Driving Force

  The JW way of life gives someone a level of stability in life, if they never had it before. I did have a level of stability before I became a JW, but answers to life's questions were missing.

  The answer to Life, the Universe and Everything being 42 wasn't sufficient, so I became a JW.

  But being lied to and manipulated was not what I expected, it took me 28 years to realize.
  
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  2015 April 28, BOE!--Orchestral Accompaniment!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2015 april 28, boe!..

  re: orchestral accompaniment for singing at congregation meetings.. .. click the green download button.. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/mh6kxar.

  .. .. petra!.

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  Driving Force

  I was just reading a little on cognitive dissonance (Wikipedia) and I found this statement quite interesting:

  • A 2012 study using a version of the forbidden toy paradigm showed that hearing music reduces the development of cognitive dissonance.
    

  Mind Control is very effective and using every possible measure to keep cult members under control is something the Watchtower does.

  So by improving the music they possible increase the Mind Control on members.
  
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  Specific Comments By R&F About May Broadcast

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know there are many posts discussing the may money requesting televangalism...er... broadcast i mean!

  but i wanted to start one where anyone can put what they have heard any non-exjw, non-apostate witnesses say good or bad about the broadcast.

  i don't see how it can't rattle followers... but then again i might be surprised how they can twist things (2+2=5).

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  Oubliette

  • DF: when under stress one tends to revert back to the personality before being indoctrinated into the cult.

  • What is your basis for saying this?

  
  

  On looking at the statement I made, maybe it was a bit hasty my saying that. The subject and the problems I am having at the moment are quite emotional.

  On saying that I was led to make the statement due to the following factors:

  1. I have noticed with myself that I have reverted back to some extent to my pre-cult personality

  2. I have noticed with my wife, although I did not know her before she was JW, she has told me some of the things she did before she was a JW, and they did show a level of viciousness

  3. In Steven Hassen's book "Combating Cult Mind Control" (New Edition) from page 133 onwards he discusses that every cult member has a Dual Personality, this is even so for Born-ins. When in the cult the cult-personality dominates, and occasionally the non-cult/pre-cult personality raises its head

  4. Also from a biblical point of view Ephesians 4:22-24 does also talk about having two personalities

  So as my original comments causing you to question my statement, from my side was emotionally charged, I beg that you take this into account.

  DF
  
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  Specific Comments By R&F About May Broadcast

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know there are many posts discussing the may money requesting televangalism...er... broadcast i mean!

  but i wanted to start one where anyone can put what they have heard any non-exjw, non-apostate witnesses say good or bad about the broadcast.

  i don't see how it can't rattle followers... but then again i might be surprised how they can twist things (2+2=5).

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  Crazyguy

  I never new my wife before she was a JW, and when under stress one tends to revert back to the personality before being indoctrinated into the cult. This has been a stressful time for both of us, the stress coming from the congregation and due to the indoctrination. The pre-cult personality traits she has shown due to the stress were vicious, really vicious, so my thinking is she is a better person as a witness than not being a witness. So I do not try to prove anything unless she specifically asks, which she will quite likely not ask. If she does ask of course I shall give her the information. When she reported me to the elders she took great pleasure in telling me in a most disrespectful and condescending manner which elder she told, the one I dislike the most because he is a liar and a cheat and clearly fits the clinical description of a psychopath.

  I have to live with the life I have, but our marriage is certainly not going to last, I do not want this toxicity the rest of my life.
  
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  How Do You Feel About All The Time You Wasted Being. A Jehovah's Witness?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  all that i can say is....what a shame!

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  disillusioned 2

  I feel the same as you, mad.

  I married a sister and we had one child. Before I knew JWs it was my desire to have a family with at least 3 children.

  That is what I missed out on and that pisses me off.